Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Reader's Response #3


In the article, “Helping Students Use Textual Sources Persuasively” by Margaret Kantz she points out that writing and reading are not about receiving and transferring information, but that certain texts don’t mean the same to you as it would the next reader. As readers we try to relate and put ourselves into the text and try to draw meaning from their context. She states that the intended audience has a lot to do with how you will personally view the facts.

 

I think that Kantz article is a lot like Kleines “What Is It We Do When We Write Articles Like This One- and How Can We Get Students To Join Us?” They both get you to really think about what you are reading when collecting facts for a research paper. Like Kleine, Kantz presents the idea that not only students can help with writing problems but that teachers have to guide them in the right direction to do so.

 Before You Read:
1. Most of the time having a factual argument is simply resolved. Look up the fact on the internet and there you have it. Most of the time seeing it in bold print must mean its true, so the argument ends at that.

QD:

1.       Shirley doesn’t have much of a broad horizon when it comes to facts, opinions, and arguments. Kantz contends that facts are something that cannot be seen from different viewpoints or be debated. Facts can be backed up and proven. On the other hand opinions can be viewed as a fact. Facts about certain topics and for certain audiences can be viewed very differently depending on the reader. And arguments are just conversations, not always raised voices. Arguments can be viewed as differences in opinions.

2.       Kantz says students lack or don’t know that:

-          Composite derived from public research

-          Misunderstand sources because they read them like stories

-          Expect their sources to tell the truth

-          Facts are a kind of claim and often used persuasively in objective writing to create an impression

-          Misread texts as narrative

-          Expect factual texts to tell the truth, instead of arguments

I think Kantz is correct on what she thinks the students are doing wrong. Sometimes I find myself viewing facts as something that is set in stone while in reality it is merely how someone is viewing the topic. I feel like I understand almost everything that she says students don’t know. I am very open to trying to open up my understanding on facts and sources.

AE:

1.       Although I haven’t had any college writing assignments at this point I can relate to my high school teachers not being clear about what they expect in a paper. I have had many teachers give me a project or writing assignments with a main topic but no details on the points they expect us to hit. I think well written directions and not so well written directions for an assignment have one thing in common and that’s providing the topic. They both state what the paper or writing assignment would be about but more detail explains what the teacher specifically wants from it. I think including all the main points of what the teacher wants to get back in a paper is very important in getting a good grade, and making them feel more knowledgeable.

MM:

Kantz is trying to analyze the different views people have on certain events that can change how the readers view the facts presented. Audience plays a huge role on the angle the author is going to go with and exploring many different facts on the subject can be helpful on declaring what stand you take on the topic. This would be useful when trying to understand the answers to your questions when writing. It also can help you think more constructively and have a broader stance on a certain subject.

 

I thought that the article was very interesting. It really made me realize how different audiences in different situations can exaggerate facts for their own benefit. I like how every text we read is similar to the last and they sort of connect to each other. I also feel like I am a very good audience for the articles I have read and they can make me a better writer.

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